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	<title>Comments on: No Jethro&#8230;No Jesus?</title>
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		<title>By: Ed Bahler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Bahler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andy,


Thanks for sharing. It&#039;s an encouragement to see God at work!  It surprising to observe how that inclination never seems to leave us.

Blessings as you learn and stretch to serve and lead like He did.

Ed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing. It&#8217;s an encouragement to see God at work!  It surprising to observe how that inclination never seems to leave us.</p>
<p>Blessings as you learn and stretch to serve and lead like He did.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Lehman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed - God used your post on No Jethro...No Jesus...to convict me on a similar attitude on my own heart.  The self-importance that creeps in and gradually we think we are &#039;all things&#039; to &#039;all people&#039; - which in turn burns us out and puts a ceiling on our effectiveness.  I&#039;ve been pruned through this post...and looking forward to bearing more fruit with greater effectiveness!

andy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed &#8211; God used your post on No Jethro&#8230;No Jesus&#8230;to convict me on a similar attitude on my own heart.  The self-importance that creeps in and gradually we think we are &#8216;all things&#8217; to &#8216;all people&#8217; &#8211; which in turn burns us out and puts a ceiling on our effectiveness.  I&#8217;ve been pruned through this post&#8230;and looking forward to bearing more fruit with greater effectiveness!</p>
<p>andy</p>
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		<title>By: Marla Saunders</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post, Ed. Whenever I think about Jethro, I think about what a rare person it is who can not only help you identify where the problem is -- you&#039;re burning out -- but also helped implement the solution. Words are a dime a dozen, and like Tyrone said, they can get you in trouble faster than they leave your mouth. But good solid actions that lead to improvement...that&#039;s worth its weight in gold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, Ed. Whenever I think about Jethro, I think about what a rare person it is who can not only help you identify where the problem is &#8212; you&#8217;re burning out &#8212; but also helped implement the solution. Words are a dime a dozen, and like Tyrone said, they can get you in trouble faster than they leave your mouth. But good solid actions that lead to improvement&#8230;that&#8217;s worth its weight in gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrone B.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed, 
Everyone needs a coach, everyone.
Moses found out from Jethro that every leader needs a team. 
What Moses found out on his own, is what most pastors find out, that peoples mouths will keep them in the wilderness and will frustrate the leader.

Moses was an intercessor and a gap filler for his people. When a person stands in the gap for any cause he can get frustrated. 
People have to learn how important their words are. When peolpe are murmering and complaining constantly about their leader, they as a group wont go anywhere.

I dont think Moses lost his humility. I think at first Moses was trying to shirt his calling from God, and brought up excuses. God was trying build his confidence by showing him what He can do through Moses. In Exodus 4:14 God got kind of tick off by Moses&#039;s excuses.

As Moses fellowshiped with God and kept good people around him like Jethro and Aaron, he got that confidence to do what God wanted him to do, and be that instrument or gap filler for his people.

Ed you asked how I keep focused.
I stay in fellowship with Jesus, keep faith based encouraging people around me, keep my mouth in check.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,<br />
Everyone needs a coach, everyone.<br />
Moses found out from Jethro that every leader needs a team.<br />
What Moses found out on his own, is what most pastors find out, that peoples mouths will keep them in the wilderness and will frustrate the leader.</p>
<p>Moses was an intercessor and a gap filler for his people. When a person stands in the gap for any cause he can get frustrated.<br />
People have to learn how important their words are. When peolpe are murmering and complaining constantly about their leader, they as a group wont go anywhere.</p>
<p>I dont think Moses lost his humility. I think at first Moses was trying to shirt his calling from God, and brought up excuses. God was trying build his confidence by showing him what He can do through Moses. In Exodus 4:14 God got kind of tick off by Moses&#8217;s excuses.</p>
<p>As Moses fellowshiped with God and kept good people around him like Jethro and Aaron, he got that confidence to do what God wanted him to do, and be that instrument or gap filler for his people.</p>
<p>Ed you asked how I keep focused.<br />
I stay in fellowship with Jesus, keep faith based encouraging people around me, keep my mouth in check.</p>
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